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Just the Same as Ever

Author: James Rowe Appears in 2 hymnals First Line: Christ is saving men from sin Refrain First Line: Just the same! Just the same! Used With Tune: [Christ is saving men from sin]

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[Christ is saving men from sin]

Appears in 1 hymnal Composer and/or Arranger: E. S. Lorenz Incipit: 33215 65712 32133 Used With Text: Just the Same as Ever

[Christ is saving men from sin]

Appears in 1 hymnal Composer and/or Arranger: Violet Holt Incipit: 57531 23544 26556 Used With Text: Just the Same as Ever

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Just the Same as Ever

Author: James Rowe Hymnal: Women's Gospel Trios #51 (1940) First Line: Christ is saving men from sin Refrain First Line: Just the same! Just the same! Languages: English Tune Title: [Christ is saving men from sin]

Just the Same as Ever

Author: James Rowe Hymnal: Praise Ye #99 (1913) First Line: Christ is saving men from sin Refrain First Line: Jesus the same! Languages: English Tune Title: [Christ is saving men from sin]

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Edmund S. Lorenz

1854 - 1942 Person Name: E. S. Lorenz Composer of "[Christ is saving men from sin]" in Praise Ye Pseudonymns: John D. Cresswell, L. S. Edwards, E. D. Mund, ==================== Lorenz, Edmund Simon. (North Lawrence, Stark County, Ohio, July 13, 1854--July 10, 1942, Dayton, Ohio). Son of Edward Lorenz, a German-born shoemaker who turned preacher, served German immigrants in northwestern Ohio, and was editor of the church paper, Froehliche Botschafter, 1894-1900. Edmund graduated from Toledo High School in 1870, taught German, and was made a school principal at a salary of $20 per week. At age 19, he moved to Dayton to become the music editor for the United Brethren Publishing House. He graduated from Otterbein College (B.A.) in 1880, studied at Union Biblical Seminary, 1878-1881, then went to Yale Divinity School where he graduated (B.D.) in 1883. He then spent a year studying theology in Leipzig, Germany. He was ordained by the Miami [Ohio] Conference of the United Brethren in Christ in 1877. The following year, he married Florence Kumler, with whom he had five children. Upon his return to the United States, he served as pastor of the High Street United Brethren Church in Dayton, 1884-1886, and then as president of Lebanon Valley College, 1887-1889. Ill health led him to resign his presidency. In 1890 he founded the Lorenz Publishing Company of Dayton, to which he devoted the remainder of his life. For their catalog, he wrote hymns, and composed many gospel songs, anthems, and cantatas, occasionally using pseudonyms such as E.D. Mund, Anna Chichester, and G.M. Dodge. He edited three of the Lorenz choir magazines, The Choir Leader, The Choir Herald, and Kirchenchor. Prominent among the many song-books and hymnals which he compiled and edited were those for his church: Hymns for the Sanctuary and Social Worship (1874), Pilgerlieder (1878), Songs of Grace (1879), The Otterbein Hymnal (1890), and The Church Hymnal (1934). For pastors and church musicians, he wrote several books stressing hymnody: Practical Church Music (1909), Church Music (1923), Music in Work and Worship (1925), and The Singing Church (1938). In 1936, Otterbein College awarded him the honorary D.Mus. degree and Lebanon Valley College the honorary LL.D. degree. --Information from granddaughter Ellen Jane Lorenz Porter, DNAH Archives

James Rowe

1865 - 1933 Author of "Just the Same as Ever" Pseudonym: James S. Apple. James Rowe was born in England in 1865. He served four years in the Government Survey Office, Dublin Ireland as a young man. He came to America in 1890 where he worked for ten years for the New York Central & Hudson R.R. Co., then served for twelve years as superintendent of the Mohawk and Hudson River Humane Society. He began writing songs and hymns about 1896 and was a prolific writer of gospel verse with more than 9,000 published hymns, poems, recitations, and other works. Dianne Shapiro, from "The Singers and Their Songs: sketches of living gospel hymn writers" by Charles Hutchinson Gabriel (Chicago: The Rodeheaver Company, 1916)

Violet Holt

Composer of "[Christ is saving men from sin]" in Women's Gospel Trios
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